Csaw Finally Watches The Sage Trailer | FFXIV Endwalker

投稿日：2021年3月7日

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Our Final Fantasy 14 journey continues! Today I am finally watching some of the new trailers that came out with Endwalker!

Welcome back to Tiny Blue Games! My name is Csaw or Chris, and today we are talking about the FFXIV Endwalker Sage trailer. I know this trailer has been out for a while now but during the stream, I was convinced to finally check it out as it doesn't have any spoilers in it. In this video, we will watch the trailer, discuss the content and finally have a discussion about healers in MMORPGs in general.

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Valkyrie Rein より:

2021年3月7日 2:31 AM

The music is supposed to be jazzy which is also MAYBE a hint about a new location

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- Jase V より:
  
  2021年3月7日 2:52 AM
  
  Yup. Think about locations related to other very jazzy music, the place that Alphinaud (and Alisae), who is the poster boy for the new job, studied, and what they all have in common.
  
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- Iryoku より:
  
  2021年3月7日 3:24 AM
  
  The music is jazzy because the trailer takes place in The Great Gubal Library, which is Sharlayan, and it's a hint that Sage comes from Sharlayan. Soken has historically used smooth jazz for anything relating to Sharlayan, though not exclusively, and there are exceptions. (The most notable exception is Idyllshire, but I think the choice of music there is meant to reflect the fact that it's no longer a Sharlayan settlement.)
  
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Daniel Isbell より:

2021年3月7日 2:32 AM

If you healed enough to be experienced with it in FFXIV, you'd probably find yourself bored if you didn't focus on doing DPS. Each healer has at least one single target DPS skill, one single target DoT skill, & one AOE DPS skill. These are what you should be pressing any time heals aren't required. I'm a BLM main, but like to SCH in non-raid content. SCH has a lot of oGCD heal options, & the aoe DPS is instant cast. You can literally wander into the middle of a pack of mobs & just spam your aoe DPS skill, & weave heals as needed to keep your tank alive. WHM AOE has a stun effect. Your first 3 hits will stun mobs. This allows WHM to start a pull doing damage & have no healing required for about 10 seconds. Also, they have special heals that after 3 uses give a powerful AOE DPS skill. AST has shorter DPS casts that allow for card & oGCD heal weaving between casts. All 3 current healers are set up to encourage damage in some way.

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Jeff より:

2021年3月7日 2:34 AM

"When you think of healing you don't think of flying daggers" I laughed irl x)

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- sullychu より:
  
  2021年3月7日 3:17 AM
  
  WHM is your general practitioner, Sage is the surgeon.
  
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Pepperoni Gelato より:

2021年3月7日 2:38 AM

I don’t see healers doing dps as “meta.” If I’m playing a priest in D&D, I’m not going to stand around doing nothing until I need to heal someone or make food/drink. I feel like earlier mmos tended to have a stronger emphasis on mp or mana management, so healers seemed to be limited to just healing a lot of the time.

Even within FF titles and other fantasy series healers are often the best dps against undead type enemies.

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catdragonrose より:

2021年3月7日 2:46 AM

Healing and dpsing is easy. It gets easier the more aware you are of your kit. If your struggling to focus on a lot of things then pull your ui elements towards center or move where you would likely see them. Healing and dpsing imo is easier than maintaining a good dps combo at high level. And if your tank and dps are good they wont be taking unnecessary damage either. In which case you're basically just spamming your one dps button.

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- AxeStump より:
  
  2021年3月7日 3:14 AM
  
  Contary to many people believe, dpsing make healer easier to play becuase tank can run out of mitigation if we don't defeat enemy fast enough and keep up tank without mitigation during 2+ pack pull is a nightmare.
  
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Jase V より:

2021年3月7日 2:48 AM

lol the bot video bombing you at the start 😀

There's not enough damage taken in most situations in FFXIV for healers to just purely heal. In fact, it's the high level content that has the most room for healer DPS. The damage comes in big, predictable bursts in savage/EX content (and in normal raids and alliance raids too), there's no constant damage like in WoW raids. You can go 20 seconds or so without anything happening except the tank getting auto attacked and mitigating a tank buster. It's only wall-to-wall dungeon pulls that might require a bit of spam healing if your tank isn't using cooldowns very well.

The damage that does happen is usually covered by one or two OGCD skills fit in between damage skills or passive healing like Media II and Whispering Dawn if there's no more damage coming for a while.

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Iryoku より:

2021年3月7日 2:49 AM

So, first, sage is a very uncommon job in the Final Fantasy series, it has only appeared in 2 of the numbered mainline games in the series, as well as the Tactics Advance spin-off series, and this incarnation really seems to be nothing at all like those. So, none of us really have any idea about what the aesthetic should be. Next, they told us in the Endwalker announcement stream that the weapons are called Nouliths (pronounced new-lith), and they basically allow the sage to channel their aether to both heal and deal damage; many people have been drawing comparisons to fin funnels in Gundam.

They also revealed that sage is a barrier healer, in the same vein as scholar, so while it will certainly have some direct healing capability, it will primarily focus on shielding damage before it happens. They're also planning to solidify the distinction between "pure" and "barrier" healers, astrologian will be reworked to make it a pure healer, likely by removing or reworking its Nocturnal Sect "shield stance"; which will mean we have two pure healers, and two barrier healers.

As for healers doing damage, it's really always been there, but mentalities within various MMO communities have shifted over time. It also depends a lot on the mechanics of healing. Some games just don't give you a lot of breathing room when playing a healer, nearly every action has to be a heal or people die, leaving little time for damage. But even in games like that, if you have the time, and you have the spare resources, it has always been optimal to spend that time and resource on damage; standing around doing nothing with a resource you have a surplus of is wasting potential. Now, having said that certain subsets of some MMO communities developed the mindset that "healers should never dps" and that sub-optimal mindset became quite widespread in many cases. The idea that healers can and should DPS was always there, in most communities, but was often looked down upon by segments of the population. That stance is just being re-evaluated now.

It's also not just meta in FFXIV. The "healers should only heal" mindset was common in FFXIV in the early days, but the extreme DPS checks in the early days of Heavensward raiding completely killed that mindset within the FFXIV community; *everyone* needed to be doing as much DPS as possible, or you were *not* passing that DPS check, and you were *not* clearing that raid. FFXIV also tends to have damage go out in bursts, nothing much will happen for minutes at a time, and then the tank will get chunked for 80% of their HP, or an unavoidable raid-wide will drop the entire party to 30%. Because of this tendency of damage to come in short spiky bursts, it leads to a lot of downtime where the healers don't really need to heal much or at all. And the number one rule of playing a caster is "remember your ABC's: Always Be Casting". If you're not casting a heal, you should be casting an offensive spell. Since this "healers can DPS" mentality has taken hold in our community it seems to have started spreading to other MMO communities as well.

It's also worth noting that some people take things too far. You can find some healers in FFXIV that will almost entirely ignore their healing kit to deal damage; the pendulum has swung in the other direction, and that's also not OK. A healer's primary job is still to keep the party alive, but that's it, it's not to keep the party topped off at all times, just alive, and free of any onerous cleansable debuffs. Sometimes that means doing some preemptive healing to make sure the tank has enough HP to survive a tank buster, but often you can let people sit at half health for minutes at a time with no risk of death. And likewise if someone is standing in AoEs and getting hit by mechanics that are easily dealt with, keeping them alive might be more of a hindrance to the party than a boon; the healer's duty is to the party as a whole, not to any one individual. It really all comes down to the situation, and the healer's knowledge of the content.

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Patriarch Of The Sith より:

2021年3月7日 2:58 AM

Just think of the “flying daggers” as magitek drones......

It helps.

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Patrick Starmie より:

2021年3月7日 3:13 AM

i think ites alot eaiser to dps if you are comfortable in your role. I play all 3 healers im more dps heavy on white mage and scholar than i am astro becasue its the one i play least. in the end there is a lot of time i dont really need to heal so i can either just sit there and dance or i can do damage and damage just seems like the better choice

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rd 77 より:

2021年3月7日 3:29 AM

Years ago there was always a discussion about the healer role (and the tank role) and people were divided between "pure healers" and "green dps" and experienced players could put a fair amount of DPS while keeping everybody up and healthy while greenish players (pun intended) were more healing focused.
My bet is that: to make content accessible to the majority of the playerbase and not create an ever bigger scarcity of healers, the devs chose to go the green dps route
Same happened to tanks. After someone posted (I think it was Xenosys) a video on how to minimize your tank stance and do more DPS without losing agro, the same discussion began between tanks. But this one was dead and buried when ShB dropped and killed tank stance.

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