[FGO] Ranmaru (not) looping demonstration

投稿日：2021年11月18日

To say that she isn't on the level of Summer kama or space ishtar is an understatement. Maybe after you get her to NP5 its gonna be better but she really do be feeling like worse Salieri.

Weird Guy より:

2021年11月18日 2:15 AM

Have you tried using tamamo as a extra?

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CrazyWarriorxx より:

2021年11月18日 2:17 AM

Right, she’s definitely not on the other two’s level, but given she’s a welfare servant and free NP5, I think it’s fine.

You can also just use a starting charge CE like Painting Summer, etc to help her a bit. Sure, she’s not gonna be that hard hitting but Buster and Quick looping also requires starting charge CEs for most comps.

If we see it that way, she’s actually fine. Also a great kit for plugsuit support with built in star bomb, targetable star absorb and debuff clear, which not many servants can replicate.

tldr; I think she’s fine, looping with 6CE slots isn’t the end all, be all of the game.

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- Clause Tamaki より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:08 AM
  
  Keep in mind you can just run Paracelsus and call it a day since again plugsuit farming isn’t really the end all be all
  
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Dezir より:

2021年11月18日 2:27 AM

SHE DOES NOT LOOP TOP KEK

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Jay Constell より:

2021年11月18日 2:31 AM

I find it hilarious when the first thing everyone evaluate on every aoe art/quick servants these days is how good they are at looping. Not that it's wrong or anything, but people tend to forget that "looping" is just one part of the servant in question.
I still don't get how this keeps happening when not everyone has looper enablers, especially with Skadi last rate up in JP was 2 years ago and most of them are limited.
Many "bad loopers" have strong potential when you take them to where they shine best, Lakshmi Bai is a strong example, with her solo potential being displayed time after time despite being a terrible quick looper. Fuuma is another notable example, having weak NP and near zero looping potential but his utility is certainly appreciated in many setups.
Now, as for my take with Ranmaru. She (let's call it "she") is the very first welfare avenger with utility. Sure she's not a looper, but as welfare goes, she's pretty decent.
So to anyone who bothered reading this, with all due respect to stop solely evaluating a servant based on how they could loop or not, it's getting ridiculous.

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- Impulsive Dude より:
  
  2021年11月18日 2:56 AM
  
  @Cabo kagetora disagrees.
  
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- Caio C. C. B. より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:00 AM
  
  @Cabo I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that, chief. Her kit and passives are all pretty damn spicy. As a matter of fact, I would argue that generally a single turn crit weight buff is better than multi-turn in an arts team, since it allows the supports to crit for more np gain as well.
  
  What makes her miserably weak is her internals. 0.45 np gen with 2 hit face arts cards is absolutely god awful, even by avenger standards. Her stats are also not very good. To make it worse, while bad np refund really isn't a big deal for a crit servant (since they focus on their face cards any way), having weak face cards is crippling. She is weak for the same reason Artemis is weak. Her kit is great, but her internals make me glad I have Spishtar.
  
  Also her np is kind of weak in terms of effects. Np5 makes it better but it's not on par with Cinderella Liz
  
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- Cabo より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:22 AM
  
  @Caio C. C. B. Cinderela liz in ST and Ranmura is AOE, so this comparassion dosen't work
  
  Her damage at NP5 is similar to that of NP1 Space Ishtar, wich to me seens like a good amount
  
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- Caio C. C. B. より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:36 AM
  
  @Cabo As is said, I meant in terms of effects. As in what happens alongside their np.
  
  Also, I'm not talking about her np damage. That bit seems fine. The problem with her is that while she is clearly not built to be an arts looper and was made with crit focus in mind, they made it so her face cards suck balls, so there is not much incentive to crit with her as an arts crit servant.
  
  What you end up is an arts servant that has awesome skills, decent np damage, and okay face card damage, but neither a capability to focus on her np, or to focus on her face cards as an arts servant. She just doesn't do anything particularly well.
  
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- Jay Constell より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:43 AM
  
  @Fariz Ahmad Miss the day? I'm already 2.5 year in NA and still stuck with that same routine until Paracelsus got buffed. Even then I'm still doing that.
  My luck with looping enabler is just...
  
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SebK より:

2021年11月18日 2:32 AM

Loopn't

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Crimson Sunbird より:

2021年11月18日 2:37 AM

Avenger Sei

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Cabo より:

2021年11月18日 2:40 AM

You could use art of the poisonous snake, it gives 40% arts buff for 3 turns, maybe this could help her farm Berserkers

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- samurott man より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:00 AM
  
  I think it would yes but I can't test it since I'm that far in JP (Rip)
  
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- Cabo より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:14 AM
  
  @samurott man i did the math, and you would be 5,3% off a sucefull loop, this could be resolved with plugsuit and paracelsus though, so yeah, she can loop with an extra help
  
  Her damage will be around 200-240K with this set up against berserker
  
  If you bring her outside of berserker fights you can just use normal double castoria and a black grail and she will be able to clear almost any quest
  
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- samurott man より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:19 AM
  
  @Cabo Can Fragment of 2004 solve that little bit of charge needed?
  
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- Cabo より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:24 AM
  
  @samurott man No, her damage is good enough so that she can clear wave 1 and 2, so face carding and crit stars wouldn't be very useful
  
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Ridesu より:

2021年11月18日 3:01 AM

Maybe she'll loop better when she's NP5

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- Luiz Felipe VBF より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:35 AM
  
  This is Super Black Grail and the enemies have very little health.
  
  If she is not looping now with both Castoria's bond CEs, NP5 is not saving her.
  
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ivanbluecool より:

2021年11月18日 3:04 AM

Honestly not a surprise they underpower this unit but honestly wish they made a st avenger instead to be a fun alternative unit.

This reminds me of erice being made bad on purpose

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- Clause Tamaki より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:09 AM
  
  Erice is good the only thing holding her back is the instant death but if you take that off she can loop fine
  
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- ivanbluecool より:
  
  2021年11月18日 3:12 AM
  
  @Clause Tamaki that's her issue. They gave her this around the same time summer Kiara was made so it was a in company made decision to make her non loopable and forgetable because of it. I wish she wasn't made this way and did death after damage. I mean we have sieg so they probably don't want to overclock someone again so this avenger is below average
  
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Luiz Felipe VBF より:

2021年11月18日 3:32 AM

What about Salieri?

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Kris Marshall より:

2021年11月18日 3:34 AM

I mean Salirei can easily loop....please don't tell me this is a waifu thing?

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